JUDGMENT DAY
THE END OF THE WORLD IS ALMOST HERE!
HOLY GOD WILL BRING JUDGMENT DAY ON
MAY 21, 2011
Harold Camping is a false prophet. He is prophesying, on his website, that God has told him that the Lord will return on May 21, 2011. He has prophesied the return of the Lord another time, in 1994, and it did not occur, and the Bible proclaims loudly that no one knows the time or the hour of the Lord’s return, not even the angels. We needn’t go any further, the Bible condemns him with the words from his own mouth. This is easy, if you believe the Bible is the true, inspired word of God.
No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father (Matthew 24:36).
Deuteronomy 18:20-22 (New International Version)
20 But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded him to say, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, must be put to death.”
21 You may say to yourselves, “How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the LORD ?” 22 If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him.
So, according to the Bible Harold Camping is a false prophet; don’t listen to him.
Harold Camping is easy, but what about all those other false prophets, who don’t necessarily set dates, but speak for God in all kinds of other matters?
It is not unusual to sit in a “church” and hear the Pastor say many things he says the Lord, or the Spirit, has spoken to him. Consequently, all this nonsense is passed down to the congregation and they begin to prophesy of things the Lord says He is fulfilling in their lives through dreams, visions, trances, or answered prayers. Let me give you an example: one pastor I am familiar with, who I will just call JF, regularly hears the Lord speak to him during Sunday services, and gives advice, warnings, and prophesies healings and such. Well, of course the congregation in the heated frenzy also begins to hear voices and speak in the Lord’s name.
Through this false prophesying and teaching the followers of these men begin to get all kinds of confirmation to prayer, and set out in every direction trying to fulfill what they believe are answers to prayer. They never stop to answer the question, why hasn’t all of these answers come to past as they were predicted? Or why has so-and-so never recovered from that illness, or the marriage restored, or the car keys found? But, if by chance some one does recover from the cold or flu as prophesied, then that event trumps all the unfulfilled words and validates that God is really working in their lives, as they have been taught.
These same people may even condemn Harold Camping, but are they any different, are they not also falsely proclaiming the word of God, and being presumptuous?
The test of the prophets are still valid today as they were in the days of old, nothing has changed. Nothing has changed in the attitudes of men either, they so desire a word from God that they must have it or else they will fabricate their own experiences and proclaim from the roof tops that God has spoken to them.
The land is full of these frauds. They speak for God and nothing happens or their programs fail, then rather than repent of their stupidity they seal their damnation by continuing to put words in God’s mouth.
Oh, it is so easy to lock onto Harold Camping because of his boldness, but we overlook the others who are just as false, but only say that God has answered their prayer that He want them to build a big religious building or organization. Who is worse? Are they not both false? Or what about the sheep who copy their methods, thinking they have been led down the right path, while all the time their path is strewn with the litter of defeat, failure, and unanswered prayer?
When will Christians wake-up and quit treating the God of the Universe like a genie for their own personal enjoyment? Their exhibitions are a mockery of God, but the beat goes on, and on, and on. When will we ever learn?
SOON!
Steve Blackwell
28 replies on “Harold Camping proclaims the Lord’s return will be in May 21, 2011”
Thanks Steve. I think you misinterpreted my intention. My intention was to expose this guy as the charlatan that he truly is. I most certainly AM NOT straddling the fence as I do not for a moment believe what this guy teaches (not even slightly). My real concern is that he is potentially destroying peoples lives. I heard that he told a young boy that he should not be going to school right now and he should instead be passing out tracks. This is very hurtful. I felt that someone should do something to expose this guy. However, I agree with you that there is too much time and energy being spent on this guy and I will heed your advice to leave it alone. I just wish there was some way to censure him.
Carlos,
I apologize if what you say is the case. I was taking into consideration our past communications. I am pleased that you are no longer part of this Satanic scheme to cheat men out of their salvation. Be careful though that you do not get re-entangled in this web by some clever argument. Your best defense is in the safety of the truth. Read your Bible, and pray that the Holy Spirit would reveal to you your real heart of sin; discover the Love of God, and allow that love to drive you to your knees in repentance; then spend the rest of your days on earth digging out the roots that cause men to defect from God’s gracious provision in His Son.
As far as Harold Camping goes, his kind are here to stay, they are both a curse of sin, and a test of obedience. By all means rescue those who come to you, but be careful. Many just want confirmation and have no intention of repentance. They may even see you as one who has fallen away and try to convert you; don’t fall for it; don’t let them get a foothold; do not let them into your house, do not eat a meal with them, and do not wish them Godspeed; shut the door and be done with them and it.
Again, I apologize for misreading you,
God bless,
Steve Blackwell
Carlos,
Excuse me, but I’m confused and need to ask a very important question. Harold proclaims that he discovered the date for judgment and he is now warning the world. Admirable, but it confuses me as to what he is warning the world against in light of his doctrine that we cannot do anything at all to be saved. It seems that the two are diametrically opposed to each another. Is this an oxymoron?
If I can do absolutely nothing to become saved, including begging for mercy and forgiveness (this is a work that we do according to Harold), what could possibly be the purpose of a warning? Please help me to understand.
Carlos,
Yes, I will agree, you are confused. Why do you keep messing around with this guy. I have given good and sufficient Biblical evidence to run from this man and his teaching, yet you persist in your sin. I suspect that you are really a follower of his and want to believe that what he is saying id the truth, even in the face of God’s truth, that this man is a charlatan.
I will not get drawn into an argument about the security of the believer. What I will say is that there are numerous verses on both sides of the issue and that I have never heard a conclusive conclusion. My position is that my salvation is very secure in the hands of the Almighty, but I will live as if there is the risk of great loss.
The real problem here is not Harold Camping, it is you. You are straddling the fence; you want Harold to be right, and he is persuasive and many follow him, but your mind is unsettled and you do not want to risk too much, by breaking off your love affair and be left behind when all your friends are swept away in May. You know what the Bible says, yet you will not believe it and continue to follow this pied piper, although at, what you think is, a safe distance. I am afraid that you will not please the Lord with your decision, because when a man knows to do right but doesn’t do it, to him it is sin.
I do want you to continue to come to my blog, but you have to get past this heresy and presumption, it is very dangerous. Believe the Bible; Harold is a fraud; do not share in his sin. The ground, even now, is shaking under his feet. Remember Korah, he presumed too much and perished, along with 250 of his followers. Read the story, it applies here; Numbers 16.
Steve Blackwell
Hi Steve,
You make a lot of sense in your writings. Unfortunately many people just want to be in a comfort zone. They want to hear soothing sermons and things to make them feel good. Many people do not want to study the Bible for themselves to see what God says, and when someone like Harold Camping comes along quoting the Bible, many believe that he is a man of God and speaking for God. However, when you listen carefully to his message you realize that his teachings are not at all Biblical. Remember when Christ was tempted by Satan in the wilderness, Satan quoted the scriptures but if you look carefully at Satan's quotes, the quotes were not accurate to the scriptures. The Bible says in Isaiah 8:20 "To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them."
Please note the scripture does not say "there is some light in them", the scripture says "there is no light in them."
It does not matter that Mr. Camping has been studying the Bible for forty or fifty years, that he is sincere and does not ask for money over the air and the publications are free, all it means is that he has been sincerely wrong for forty or fifty years.
Thanks.
Wayne.
hi again Steve. If you feel that you can help out, please check this site…thankyou.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TimeandJudgment_May212011/
Carlos,
I am surprised that you are still frequenting that house of ill repute. No offense intended friend, only reflecting that you have not gotten away from that den of deception. To answer your question,
What can a man say to a bunch of inebriated drunks about cleaning up their act. Maybe on May 22, 2011 I’ll stop over and see if any of them are interested in picking up the pieces of their broken dreams and dashed hopes. Right now they are way to snookered to listen to truth.
Carlos, I will say it again, get away from them, you don’t want to be around them when the fire hits.
Steve Blackwell
Vince,
I did not approve your comment to check out your website. People are confused enough without feeding them more poison from false teachers. There is no need to check out your site when the Bible makes clear that you are in serious error.
I hope that on May 22nd 2011 you will come to your senses and repent, and not jump onto another date setting bandwagon like Harold Camping.
Wake-up! and believe the Bible and stop what you are doing. You are deceiving people and will be held accountable for your ignorance. You are making God out to be a liar and causing others to follow false teaching, and they too will pay for their ignorance.
Steve Blackwell
Indy,
Why is it that you call everybody who agrees with Harold Camping his FOLLOWERS? Although I agree with him on may 21, 2011, there are plenty of other things i disagree with him on, one being his teaching that king Solomon was not saved. To me, the definition of a follower in a religious context is a person who blindly believes in a teaching without doing his own reasearch on the subject and on the person. I will assume that you go to a good church and have a good pastor. Would it be correct of me to call you his follower simply because you believe most of his teachings on the bible are true?
Nathan,
Pardon me, the word “follower” here is meant to signify someone who adheres to one or more distinguishing features of a person or teaching of a person. Harold Camping is distinguished by his false teaching and prophesying of the Lord’s coming. A person who identifies their self with that person or his teaching can be rightly said to follow that person by identifying with that characteristic. I guess, technically, if you came up with this idea totally on your own then you would not be a follower of Harold Camping, but that is not likely, so you would still be considered as one of his followers, at least as far as this prominent feature that labels him and those who have bought into this false teaching. Your research means nothing, you still identify yourself with Harold Camping. What your research means is that you are in agreement with him.
As far as your assumption that I go to a building that ignorant Christians call “church” is wrong. Also, I do not belong to a personality cult where supposed believers in Christ are really believers and “followers” of a man they call a “pastor,” who is really nothing but the CEO, who gives a speech once or twice a week. This concept is not taught in the Bible, anywhere. Do I fellowship with others who are following Jesus? Yes! the people who follow the teaching of men, are followers of men.
Steve Blackwell
Steve..you definitely have a point when you say he; Harold Camping does not accept the obvious. I will check into this. Thankyou for you concern.
Carlos,
You are welcome.
Guys, I think you should be easier on brother Camping. He hasnt done me and many people like me any harm Im sure because after the churches where I was attending drove me “away” from Christ, he; brother Camping, helped to bring me back. Like you guys probably know already, he has an “open forum” which he conducts each and every day for 1.5 hours. It is absolutely amazing how much time brother Camping sacrifices everyday to preach the word of God to the world. He is a very old man and to sacrifice “that” kind of time each and every day without “ever” asking for cash from anybody simply amazes me.
Now, I know you folks have brought up a few issues with his beliefs which would indicate that he may be a false prophet, but I ask you…”why dont you just simply get onto one of the open forums and ask him directly about your concerns”?? It may be hard to get into a place in the telephone line-up to ask him a question since there are many callers, but wouldnt it be better to ask him directly than to simply lable him as a false prophet?
I know many, many people out there including yourselves especially dont agree with the May 21, 2011 date to be the day of Christ’s return and I truly can understand that it is a gargantuan thing to believe and accept, but believe it or not, there “are” passages in the Bible to back this up. There “are” some passages that indicate that the “true” believers know “time and judgement”. I believe that brother Camping will not say something that he cant backup by the word of God which is the Bible. I truly believe that the Bible is a very complicated book to understand and I believe that God meant it to be that way where sometimes the truth is hidden from the smartest theologians on earch, but revealed to the average layman. I believe that God has made it possible for us to understand things now about the end times that wasnt known too long ago.
Guys, I am a man in my 50’s and believe me…I’ve been around. I’ve been to many, many different churches in the last approx. 35 yrs, and believe me…I’ve seen multitudes of confused people whom are members of churches. Like I have stated before, I always felt there was something wrong…there was a Godly spirit that just wasnt there…it wasnt in the churches and it wasnt in the members. I seen a lot of these members going to their churches on Sundays, and living like aethiests for the rest of the week! I got truly fed up with it and removed myself from the churches for years now. After what Harold Camping stated about his belief that the church age ended in 94, I put 2 and 2 together and it finally “just made sense to me”!
In ending this note, I would like to say that I am happy with listening to Harold Camping and family radio. You may call me a “follower” of Harold Camping and family radio, but Harold is not asking me or anybody else to follow “him”… but just to follow the Bible in its entirety. For anybody that doesnt know, you can bring up familyradio.com on any internet connection and bring up many of brother Camping’s open forums. They are all recorded and available for free. Also, you can bring up his books like “we are almost there” , “to God be the glory”, and “I hope God will save me” all on his sight for absolutely free, or you can ask for paper copies to be sent to your door also for absolutely free. Please check out brother Campings views and research all of his beliefs by researching his proofs in the Bible.
Thankyou very much for reading….
Carlos,
I truly sympathize with you in your past experience inside the organizational church, but you are making a terrible mistake. I also have been around. I am in my sixties, and my experience inside the multitude of churches means nothing if I haven’t grown. You said in your last letter that you were ready to give up and leave Christianity, which means you were only being carried along with the winds of religion, and had never discovered the truth Jesus want you to so desperately wants you have. The hunger you experienced is the path that can lead you to faith in Jesus, if you will rely on Him and not go searching for a man to “like.” All those 35 years were wasted if all you have t show for it is a false prophet.
You say:
Harold Camping has poisoned your mind and you think there is no harm? The same Bible that HC says be believes, as the literal word of God, is the same Bible that condemns him. If he can believe something that is not at all obvious, i.e. the date of the Lord’s return, then why can’t he believe and accept the very obvious verses that condemn his actions like: “no one knows the day or the hour,” or, “the Lord comes as a thief in the night,” and of course the verse that says that those who presume to speak for the Lord, but their words do not come to past, are condemned as false prophets? You think there is no harm when he has convinced you to believe him rather than God? You believe God’s word is difficult to understand? Do you think God would offer us salvation then make it difficult? This would be a cruel God indeed. Rather He has made it exceptionally easy; He only ask that you believe His word, then walk in it. It doesn’t matter that HC is an old man or that he sacrifices his whole life. If he is wrong, he is wrong; and he is wrong, and doing much harm.
There is no need to get on line and check out his web site or read his material, the little I know of the man is all I need to know; this is not rocket science. I certainly do not need to get in a debate with him; what would that accomplish, only that one of us can debate better than the other? Truth is all that matters, and the God of the Bible says that HC a liar. We do not need to pray for an answer or a revelation, it is not required. No theological degrees are needed to discern the truth here. And, no mathematical formulas or gymnastics to perform, just believe the literal written word of God, that’s all. If God has told me that something is poison I don’t need to taste it to know that it is poison, I just reject it and trust God. God has told us that Harold Camping is poison, stay away from him, end of debate.
Don’t you understand Carlos that God has written these things as a test, and as a warning? You are failing the test by not heeding the warning. You are not to be admired for finding truth, you are to be pitied for seeking refuge in a sinking ship.
I have nothing more to say on this subject. If you are a devoted follower of Harold Camping then you better be prepared to follow him into eternity and spend forever cursing your bad luck and your misfortune for following a man instead of God
Steve Blackwell
Dear Brother in Christ,
I stumbled upon this posting today when I was searching about strongs word 5207 Huios which is a very powerful study, anyway i stumbled upon your site.
Oddly enough recently i stumbled upon “we are almost there” book recently online when i was searching for another strongs word. I dont usually get into end times stuff like that because most of it is completely not biblical but this seemed a bit more based on scripture. As I was reading the verse came that You quoted at the very top no man knows the hour.. not even the Son came to me..
I also sent it to some friends who are very discerning believers who also sent back the exact same verse in their reply and said that this was false.
It is intersting that most heresy is 90% truth. I think that is alot of what Carlos is talking about in his postings..
bottom line I STRONGLY agree with what you said.. and as i read all the different blog postings.. it is a reminder how desperately WE NEED TO BE LEAD OF HIS SPIRIT and not man.
Jesus said that HE would send the SPIRIT to lead and guide us into all TRUTH!! the HOLY SPIRIT is the only one who can show us the way we need to go in our daily lives.
I pray He would continue to lead and guide each one of us. And look forward to be able to speak with you some more if you so wish. Please send me a reply by email (would be best.)
I appreciate your boldness and sincerity for the TRUTH!!
take care Brother.
Joel,
Thanks for writing. It is nice to hear that we have found some common ground. I, like you, do not get too much involved in end times arguments, but as a watchman site I expect that it is a responsibility I have taken on, and I am trying to be faithful by exposing as many false teachings as I come across them.
You are correct that most heresy is composed of quite a lot of truth. There is only one black and one white, everything else is a shade of gray. Most of that gray comes from legitimate ignorance of the truth that God will root out if we love truth. The other kind of ignorance is what I call passivity, it is just inactivity or convenience. It is not a love of the truth it is the love of acceptance to please the crowd. Of course, none of us will ever have all the truth, but if we love the truth, then God has something He can work with. As soon as we love family, friends, job, money, sex, or anything more than Jesus then we effectively close the door to revelation, and revelation is the only road to truth. The Bible calls this leaven, and we know that love of a little, leads to love of a lot.
We will not make it out of this world alive without being led out by the Holy Spirit. He is our only compass and when He says “trust Me” that is exactly what we have to do. We have gotten in too deep to do this alone. There are many who will gladly offer their assistance, but very few of them have the credentials of a holy, separated life, bearing the kind of fruit that Father is pleased with. Oh, there is much fruit being produced in the organized Church, but almost all of it is an offering like that of Cain, and me mustn’t kid ourselves, Cain was a worshiper of the Living God. Cain was not a believer that God really wanted an offering of death, and a bloody mess. He just couldn’t logically reason why God would want “that” over his beautiful offering of luscious produce. Men today still do the same thing. They offer beautiful music, drama, choreography, programs, platitudes, and creeds, but refuse to give God what He wants, and that is a body, and that is Scriptural. That is the message of the Bible. That is the truth from Genesis to Revelation.
The Spirit is here and He is leading all who will follow. They are few and will not be found amongst the status quo or in the broad way. They are those who do their jobs well in the world, then go home, not to television, but to prayer and study. If they are asked a question they do not hedge their answer with a lot of middle-of-the-road gobbledygook, that leaves them in neutral territory where they are safe from the sting of critics or the stones of persecutors. They do not infect their lives with leaven, but strive to purify their lives, even down to their very thoughts.
This kind of Christianity is wholly missing in the organized church, because what they call the church is not the Church, it is an organization, not an organism.
We have very little time left, we must begin to really trust God, He is there waiting.
In His service,
Steve Blackwell
Thanks for the reply Steve. I understand all that you are saying, however, if it werent for family radio, I wouldnt even be opening the Bible right now. I am not a concrete devoted follower of Harold Camping and family radio, but his preaching is truly making a lot of sense to me. I have heard a “lot” of preachers and have gone to many different church Christian gatherings in the past 35 yrs of my life and I have seen so much corruption among the church goers that I just wanted to disown the Christian faith altogether because all I ever seen was mass confusion. Then one day, I was listening to my shortwave radio and I stumbled upon one of Harold Campings open forums. Well…that was enough to spark my interest in the Bible and God again! And needless to say, I’ve been extremely interested in listening to Harold Camping on every one of his forums if I was able to. No other preacher among all the preachers which I have listened to for the longest time has caught my attention like this man’s preaching. And what impresses me is…he is an extremely old man and “devotes 1.5 hrs each and every day” with his open forums and answering many, many questions to help as many people as possible to come to the Lord God. He has never, ever asked for money like many other preachers and absolutely does not take any credit for his knowledge of the Bible. He says over and over again, that he will show how each and every one of his Biblical conclusions was reached. All a person has to do is ask him for the free literature and it will be quickly sent to you for absolutely free! I did order a number of book from him like “we are almost there”, “to God be the glory, and “I hope God will save me”. These books are extremely interesting and I would recommend for everybody to at least read the book called “we are almost there” before judging this man’s Biblical outlook. I also have finally found my answer as to why there is so much corruption in the churches….”because I truly believe that the church age is over, and Satan is at the head of the churches”. I knew there was something wrong for the longest time but just couldnt figure it out until not too long ago.
Steve, I am very content with listening to family radio and I am awaiting the promise of the return of Christ not too long from now. I finally found my home. I hope God has mercy on us all.
Carlos,
I am going to say this in the kindest way I can; you are the problem with the Church. You are no different than the religious organizations you say are corrupt. You are not searching for truth, you are looking for a home, and contentment, and you have found it in a false teacher. You are just like millions of so called believers, who could care less what the Bible says as long as they are satisfied and content.
Harold Camping has prophesied the return of the Lord another time, in 1994, and it did not occur, so who was it that told him? What spirit is he listening to? It certainly is not the Holy Spirit!
Nothing will change your mind because you have found a man you like. Religious organizations are filled with people who love their Pastor or Priest and have the warm fuzzies when they listen to them speak. It matter not whether they are heretics, apostates, liberals, or cultist, as long as they feel good about the man.
As far as God’s mercy, do not be presumptuous. Many will perish because they presume too much.
Luke 13:6-9
“Then he told this parable: “A man had a fig tree, planted in his vineyard, and he went to look for fruit on it, but did not find any. So he said to the man who took care of the vineyard, ‘For three years now I’ve been coming to look for fruit on this fig tree and haven’t found any. Cut it down! Why should it use up the soil?’ ‘Sir,’ the man replied, ‘leave it alone for one more year, and I’ll dig around it and fertilize it. If it bears fruit next year, fine! If not, then cut it down.’ “
God has allowed much time for all to see the truth, this is called “mercy.” The Lord is the Gardener and He is trying to save people from Hell by getting them acknowledge the truth, but they insist that their particular flavor of religion is adequate to satisfy God. But, God will return to His garden and when the fruit of truth is not found, your presumption will not, at that time, receive redeeming mercy.
Can’t you see that you are changing things around to accommodate your own belief?
Well, my friend, good luck, because at this point that is all you have going for you.
Steve Blackwell
Although I weigh a lot on what Harold Camping and family radio believe the Bible says, I am having trouble trying to understand this thing about a day is like a 1000 years and a 1000 years is like a day which is in 2nd Peter. So family radio uses this statement heavily to calculate the day of the rapture which they believe is May 21, 2011. What I cant understand exactly is why they are using this 1000 year thing in one instance but not the other. Like for example in the Bible, God told Noah that in 7 days, he would flood the earth, and then it says that rain fell upon the earth for 40 days and 40 nights. Using the quote from 2nd Peter, wouldnt this 40 days and 40 nights mean 40 thousand years?? Many times in Genesis, ages of different individuals are quoted….does this mean their ages which are appearing in the Bible have to be multiplied by a 1000 years because of the verse in 2nd Peter?? As much as I’d like to believe family radio, it “almost” seems that things were changed around to accomodate their belief that May 21, 2011 is Christs return. “Can anybody help me out with this since this is truly troubling me”. I truly, truly want to accept it but there is something in there I dont understand.
Even with putting the Bible completely aside, I see worldwide disaster looming. Between earthquakes, tornado’s, tsunami’s, starvation, unemployment, pollution..etc….its not hard to believe that we are headed rapidly for destruction. My extreme wish is that I have accepted the right belief. I’ve been subjected to the Bible and many different churches for years and years and all the confusion between the churches turned me off to the point where I was going to become an aethiest..but then I started listening to Harold Camping and family radio and my love of the Bible came back. I hope that somebody can help me out with my concern about the useage by family radio of the verse in 2nd Peter where it says that a day is like a 1000 yrs and a 1000 yrs is like a day. Thankyou.
Carlos,
Thanks for the visit.
False prophets and false teachers always use accommodation to prove their point and get a following. Your view is legitimate and should be held to when considering these false teachings. Peter could have just as easily said that one day is as two thousand years, or that one hour is as a thousand years, to make his point that time is no consideration to God, since He is the Eternal ever present God.
As far as your faith is concerned you simply cannot base it on Harold Camping or any other man. Your faith must be an unqualified trust in God and Him alone. If you believe that we are in the end days because of what you are witnessing in the world, then you must also believe that the Church is existing in a time of great deception and that the church has, as the Bible states, bought into the “lie” that God Himself said He would bring as a strong delusion. Each person will be held responsible for the things he believes. That is why we must rely on the Holy Spirit to guide us. The Bible says that we must separate ourselves from the world, but I don’t see one in five hundred who obey this command, but they all claim to understand Scriptures and walk in faith. The Church has become almost totally saturated in the world, so how can they possibly expect to hear the voice of the Spirit when He speaks? The answer is that they cannot hear, or see, or understand, so people like Harold Camping have an open door into their minds, and they want to believe him because he sound so in tune with what is happening in the world.
The Bible plainly states that very few will make it into Heaven and that those who are traveling the broad path to hell are the majority of so called Christians. Jesus says that many will say Lord, Lord, but He says”I do not know you.” If this is so then what is this with all these people claiming to be Christians. The truth is that they are deceived, and not exercised saving faith in Jesus.
Harold Camping is a false teacher, and those who follow him will receive the same reward, and that will be too bad. God is able to deliver you without the help of Harold Camping, or any other man.
If God is not able to save us without the help of men then He has deceived us. It is trust that is required. You must read the Bible and do what it says, and God will be faithful and deliver you. But without separation from the world in all of its evilness then you will not be able to understand or hear, or see. This is called consecration, but do not look at the Church as an example, you must trust God.I am not telling you to look for a building to attend, but I am telling you to seek out the Body of Christ: men, women, and children who have rejected the world and its ways, who live simple obedient lives, waiting for the Lord’s return.
I could go on and on. I have written much on this subject on my blog, I would advise you to read the articles and weigh what I say with the Word of God. John 7:17 says that when your will is to do the will of God then you will know whether Jesus was speaking as a mere man or as the real, true, Son of God. And, other places He states that when you seek earnestly, with all your heart, then you will find. Don’t listen to hustlers, they will steal you blind.
Steve Blackwell
Hello,
There are other verses of the bible that Harold Camping mentions often on his weekly radio program that indicate that toward the end of time we might know the date. You may have incorrectly isolated one specific verse of the bible.
Amos 3:7:
“Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but He revealeth his secret unto His servants the prophets.”
By careful study of the Bible we learn that in the year 4990 B.C. (Before Christ) God brought a flood of water and destroyed the entire earth except for eight people and the animals that were with them. They were not destroyed because God brought them into the safety of the ark. Their leader, Noah, had obeyed God’s command to build a huge boat, called an ark, about 450 feet (137 meters) long.
The Holy Bible tells us in Hebrews 11:7:
By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.
Seven days before the beginning of the Flood that completely covered the entire earth, God commanded Noah to warn the peoples of the world that they had seven days to get into the safety of the ark. The Holy Bible tells us that on the 17th day of the 2nd month of that year God shut the door of the ark. Then, the Flood began to completely cover the entire earth.
About 5,000 years later God wrote in His Holy Bible in 2 Peter Chapter 3 about this worldwide destruction by water in the days of Noah. In the same chapter He also warned that the time would come when Holy God would destroy the whole world by fire. Our entire universe would be forever destroyed. In between these two declarations of worldwide destruction that would come because of sin God made a very important statement. God declared in 2 Peter 3:8:
But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
God had written in the Holy Bible in Genesis 7:4:
For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth.
God added in Genesis 7:10-11:
And it came to pass after seven days, that the waters of the Flood were upon the earth. In the six hundredth year of Noah’s life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.
The ark that Noah had built was the only place of safety from the destruction of the Flood. Likewise, God’s gracious mercy is the only place of safety from the destruction that is coming on the Day of Judgment.
In 2 Peter 3:8, which is quoted above, Holy God reminds us that one day is as 1,000 years. Therefore, with the correct understanding that the seven days referred to in Genesis 7:4 can be understood as 7,000 years, we learn that when God told Noah there were seven days to escape worldwide destruction, He was also telling the world there would be exactly 7,000 years (one day is as 1,000 years) to escape the wrath of God that would come when He destroys the world on Judgment Day. Because Holy Infinite God is all-knowing, He knows the end from the beginning. He knew how sinful the world would become.
Seven thousand years after 4990 B.C. (the year of the Flood) is the year 2011 A.D. (our calendar).
4990 + 2011 – 1 = 7,000
[One year must be subtracted in going from an Old Testament B.C. calendar date to a New Testament A.D. calendar date because the calendar does not have a year zero.]
Thus Holy God is showing us by the words of 2 Peter 3:8 that He wants us to know that exactly 7,000 years after He destroyed the world with water in Noah’s day, He plans to destroy the entire world forever. Because the year 2011 A.D. is exactly 7,000 years after 4990 B.C. when the flood began, the Bible has given us absolute proof that the year 2011 is the end of the world during the Day of Judgment, which will come on the last day of the Day of Judgment.
Amazingly, May 21, 2011 is the 17th day of the 2nd month of the Biblical calendar of our day. Remember, the flood waters also began on the 17th day of the 2nd month, in the year 4990 B.C.
The Holy Bible gives several additional astounding proofs that May 21, 2011 is very accurate as the time for the Day of Judgment. For more information on this subject, you may request a copy of We Are Almost There, available free of charge from Family Radio.
God is proving to us that we have very accurately learned from the Holy Bible God’s time-plan for the end of the world.
GOD’S SUBLIME MERCY AND COMPASSION
God in His Holy Bible has given us a beautiful example of His compassionate mercy. Included in the Holy Bible is the book called Jonah. In it God tells of a very wicked city with a population of more than 120,000 people that existed about 2,800 years ago. It was called Nineveh, which was a capital city of the nation of Assyria that knew nothing of the Bible. But because of its wickedness and because Holy God is merciful, He sent a prophet named Jonah to that city. Jonah’s message from God to them was that in 40 days the whole city was to be destroyed.
The whole city correctly believed with all their hearts that this warning was from Holy God. Thus from the king on down to the lowest servant they repented, which means they turned away from their sins and their pride. The Holy Bible tells us that they sat in sackcloth and ashes. This meant that they fully realized that because of their sins they had dreadfully shamed God. To put on sackcloth and ashes was an act of supreme humility to show in the clearest way to God and to all of the people how greatly they were humbled by their sins against Holy God. It showed that they knew that they fully deserved that God should destroy them because of their sin.
But maybe, there was hope that Holy God might change His mind and instead have mercy on them. The Bible tells us in Jonah 3:6-9:
For the word came unto the king of Nineveh, and he arose from his throne, and he laid his robe from him, and covered him with sackcloth, and sat in ashes. And he caused it to be proclaimed and published through Nineveh by the decree of the king and his nobles, saying, Let neither man nor beast, herd nor flock, taste any thing: let them not feed, nor drink water: But let man and beast be covered with sackcloth, and cry mightily unto God: yea, let them turn every one from his evil way, and from the violence that is in their hands. Who can tell if God will turn and repent, and turn away from his fierce anger, that we perish not?
In answer to their complete humility we read of God’s fabulous, incomprehensible mercy toward these extremely wicked people. God tells us in Jonah 3:10:
And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that He had said that He would do unto them; and He did it not.
Because this entire wicked city of Nineveh turned from their evil ways and with great humility cried to God for mercy, Holy God did change His mind and did not destroy them.
Sadly, the Holy Bible tells us that only a small percentage of today’s world will turn from their evil ways, and with great humility and fear will cry to God for mercy. Nevertheless, the Bible assures us that many of the people who do beg God for His mercy will not be destroyed. We learn from the Bible that Holy God plans to rescue about 200 million people (that is about 3% of today’s population). On the first day of the Day of Judgment (May 21, 2011) they will be caught up (raptured) into Heaven because God had great mercy for them. This is why we can be so thankful that God has given us advance notice of Judgment Day. Because God is so merciful, maybe He will have mercy on you. The Holy Bible says in Psalm 51:17:
The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise.
And in Psalm 51:1-3 Holy God shows us the attitude we ought to have as we pray for His mercy:
Have mercy upon me, O God, according to thy lovingkindness: according unto the multitude of thy tender mercies blot out my transgressions. Wash me thoroughly from mine iniquity, and cleanse me from my sin. For I acknowledge my transgressions: and my sin is ever before me.
Sadly, you can’t turn to your religion or go to your priest or pastor or spiritual leader for help. They, too, should be begging God for mercy for themselves. This is a matter only between you and Holy God. God knows every one of your thoughts, words, and actions. Turn away from your sins and humbly beg, beseech, and implore God for forgiveness.
And, thank God that in His great mercy He has given you this warning of the destruction that is almost here, and the great hope that you, too, might be one whom God will bring to Heaven to be with God forevermore in the highest happiness and joy and glory. Holy God in the Holy Bible teaches us in Luke 18:10-14:
Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican. The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican. I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess. And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner. I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.
May God have mercy on you as He did on this publican.
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Joseph,
Thanks for writing.
Your rather long refutation refutes nothing, and proves nothing, except that you are a follower of Harold Camping, and like so many others, come to the defense of a man, rather than the defense of the truth.
Do you know what the word chaff means? It is foil in thin strips; ejected into the air as a radar countermeasure. When radar locks onto a target “chaff” is released into the air, by the enemy, to confuse the radar and the forthcoming missile, and cause the missile to go off target; chaff is a form of fraud or trickery to lead a person away from truth. In debate it is called a “red herring.” In written matter, such as this refutation of yours, a lot of extra words can be added to make a person sound more intelligent or knowledgeable than they really are, to the average reader, and deflect or misguide a conversation into areas that would appear to add credibility to an argument, when it doesn’t. Most of what you have written is chaff, it has nothing to do with the argument except to make you appear informed.
You have not addressed the major problem you face by doing some mathematical gymnastics, and quoting a bunch of unrelated Bible verses. My contention is that Harold Camping is a false prophet based on three things:
1. He has prophesied the Lord’s return in the past (1994), and was found to be a liar. Deuteronomy 18:20-22. And you do believe Mr. Camping to be a Prophet because you quote Amos 3:7 to prove it.
2. He presumes to know something that the Bible says he can not know. Matthew 24:36
3. He presumes to know information that Jesus, Himself, says He doesn’t even know. Matthew 24:36
Beside these questions, which you avoid in your comment, you think you have discovered, by quoting a single verse, 2 Peter 3:8 “But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.” With this supposed proof you completely confuse and distort God’s word. I see at least three errors in your interpretation.
1. You say “God told Noah there were seven days to escape worldwide destruction, He was also telling the world there would be exactly 7,000 years (one day is as 1,000 years) to escape the wrath of God that would come when He destroys the world on Judgment Day.”
This is absolutely astonishing that you and Harold, and let’s include Peter, were able to figure this riddle out, but Jesus, who is wiser than Solomon, couldn’t connect the dots?
2. You say, “Thus Holy God is showing us by the words of 2 Peter 3:8 that He wants us to know that exactly 7,000 years after He destroyed the world with water in Noah’s day, He plans to destroy the entire world forever. Because the year 2011 A.D. is exactly 7,000 years after 4990 B.C.”
By using the word “thus” you are betting the ranch that Mr. Camping is correct in his exegesis, and apply it to these words in Genesis, even though Jesus tells us that we can not know the time. Who are we to believe here, Harold Camping, who has shown himself to be false, or Jesus? This is too easy.
Are you sure that that is what God wants us to know in the this verse, that Judgment day is May 21, 2011? These verses of Chapter 3 of 2Peter tell me something different. They tell me to beware of scoffers who mock God because He hasn’t come back like they predicted He would, and they have caused others to question whether or not the Lord would return for them. Peter is telling them that God is faithful and that He is not slow in His return, and that He doesn’t measure time as men do, but rather He is patient, and waits for all who will be saved to be saved. Then Peter says something crucial, and don’t miss this, he says verse 10, “But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night.” Does a thief announce when he will break into your house?
3. You say, “Amazingly, May 21, 2011 is the 17th day of the 2nd month of the Biblical calendar of our day. Remember, the flood waters also began on the 17th day of the 2nd month, in the year 4990 B.C.”
What is so amazing about this? If I take 4990 and add 10 to it I will get 5000. If I take 4990 and add 2011 then subtract 1 I get 7000. This is not amazing this is simple math. Because you put a date with this is not amazing at all, it is just more chaff.
Harold Camping, like so many others make a mockery of God’s word, and clever people, who refuse to honor God’s word, by believing what He has written, are not Prophets, they are robbers and thieves trying to enter in by another way. You have decided to believe Harold Camping rather than believe God, so what argument do you have with me if I decide to believe God only?
Steve Balckwell
Hi Indy,
I have a question: the Son (as you you believe refers to Christ in Matt 24:36) doesn’t know when He returns? If you say that the Lord doesn’t even know when he is coming sounds very foolish. I think Matt has a point, and we need to understand that Jesus is God and Jesus is God, and that Jesus is God!
Gary,
I can only go as far as the Bible goes in answering your question. As you state “Jesus is God and Jesus is God, and that Jesus is God!” and that “God” who is Jesus says He doesn’t know the time. It is foolish for me to put words in His mouth, or try to reason my way to a new understanding. Call me old fashioned, but I’ll just trust God on this one, it seems very simple.
Steve Blackwell
Steve. You quoted Mar 13:32… Mat 24:36 does not include “son”. Even so… I have what may appear to be a simple question… with an answer that is not so simple. Who is the “son” in Mar 13:32? I don’t take God’s word lightly, and I’ve meditated on these two verses for a long time. The context around both these verses don’t make it clear. The Bibles translate it with a capital “Son”, but without justification. I’m not blaming the translators, I merely have an intense desire to understand God’s word in the original Greek and Hebrew. It’s very strange language in Mar 13:32, because it’s normally very clear when the word “son” is used in the NT, who it is referring to. Please consider this example:
Mat 8:12 But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
The word “children” here is the same Greek word (“uihos” Strongs G5207) as “son” in Mar 13:32. From the context, we know it’s not Christ right? But we know it will be humans gnashing their teeth. Please also consider:
1Jn 4:15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.
The same Strongs G5207 Greek word for Son. But the context is very clear.
This is the tip of the iceberg, Strongs G5207 is used in 348 verses… I am aware that what you speak is commonly taught. What is not commonly taught is that we need to beseech the Lord for wisdom and study His word diligently with no other higher priority in life.
Matt,
Thanks for the correction. You are right Matthew24:36 does not include the word “son.” A slight oversight with no major damage, the article is not effected by the mistake, the argument remains firm.
Your comment is off topic, but I will make the following response.
Mark 13:32 (King James Version)
“But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.”
This appears clear enough. Jesus here says no man knows when the end will come, then He includes “not even the Son.” Jesus here use the definite article “the” to include Himself. If He didn’t mean Himself the verse would be redundant.
There are many things in Scripture that tax our understanding, this is not one of those. Don’t struggle where there is no fight.
Steve Blackwell
Hi Steve,
I hope all is well with you. You are in my thoughts often!
Thanks for this post, though I am not familiar with Harold Camping, I am familiar with the multitude of false prophets in our midst – and the dangers that are more cunning than that of Harold Camping, as you clearly point out in your thoughts concerning the organized church.
There is no time for laziness and/complacency in this walk – – we must stay in God’s word – we must stay focused.
I end with a partial reply by you via your post that you linked here with this article, for I believe that to know truth from error we First have to love and seek truth, which in return will result in us to hate every false way – and realize with loving truth carries with it the responsibility of exposing the false.
“Christ does love the world, and died for the sins of the world, but we misunderstand this love and think it means to tolerate anything and everything, and to believe gray is white, Christ never did this and He does not expect His followers to do it either. Jesus hates sin, lies, deceit, hypocrisies, and anything false, and was always exposing it when He came across it, and it earned Him a place on Golgotha. Exposing falsehood is part of what a Christian does, that is part of the Gospel, besides giving to the poor, working on mission fields, building orphanages, and hospitals. The sins we Christians hate are not the sins of the world, but the sins inside the Church; the sins of those who say they follow Christ, and we call brother or sister, but are leading other believers down a wrong path. It is because we believe resolutely in the absoluteness of truth, that we are willing to fight for it. Truth is a real thing, and it must first be found, then preached, then protected, from wolves (satanic influences) inside the Church, who want to see it destroyed. Truth is very restrictive and causes much conflict, unfortunately that is the nature of truth in a world of lies.
If you are a seeker of truth, this may help, if not it will only rub a raw spot on your flesh.
But TRUTH heals,”
And as you end, Truth heals!
Shalom,
sherry
So very true – The Harold Campings are the easiest to detect because of their blatant prophecies. But the others, as you noted, who claim special revelation from God, are really no better than Camping. It’s too bad there are so many gullible people out there who follow these charlatans.